Is PHP Running on Your ColdFusion Server? How to Check, and Remove It

(gregoryalexander.com)

34 points | by rmason 5 hours ago

9 comments

  • rebeccapowell 4 hours ago
    I’m kind of blown away that there are still people out there using ColdFusion. Blast from the past.
    • cloudbonsai 2 hours ago
      ColdFusion has been maintained by Adobe since 2005. Apparently, they think there is future for it:

          ColdFusion Next is evolving into an AI-powered, cloud-native platform designed for modern business automation.
      
      See “Roadmap for Adobe ColdFusion 2026” for more details: https://www.adobe.com/cc-shared/assets/pdf/products/coldfusi...
    • denkmoon 3 hours ago
      The entire stack described in the post is the stuff of nightmares. ColdFusion, IIS on Windows Server, PHP. Things that make you wake up in a cold sweat.
      • CableNinja 9 minutes ago
        Next someone is gonna pipe up and say they used AI to enable them to continue using FrontPage extensions to keep their php+cf sites working
      • lakeviewterrace 1 hour ago
        They're well-documented, well-supported products.

        What gives me cold sweats are custom application servers that no one knows how they work.

    • emacdona 4 hours ago
      Same! I have a huge soft spot for CF. It put a lot of food on my table in the early 2000’s. Then I switched to Java :-)
  • kstrauser 1 hour ago
    "Yo dawg, I hear you like security vulnerabilities..."

    CF was an interesting path. I used the Python equivalent, Zope, extensively back in the day. Both could glue together some really powerful components and allow you to write whole web apps more or less declaratively.

    That said, we collectively tried that experiment ("we" includes you, my JBoss compatriots) and realized this is not The Way Forward. That doesn't mean they're valueless, not at all! And it's the sort of experiment you have to try or else it's always going to be nagging at the back of your mind: "what if we tried this... and it was amazing?" But we did try it, and it was not amazing.

    If you have to maintain CF or Zope or JBoss today, godspeed. Just know that life is easier elsewhere. It doesn't have to be this way. It's not this way for everyone.

  • stmw 1 hour ago
    ColdFusion did a lot of things right for its time, but it can only be appreciated if one understands the engineering challenges of the time period (e.g. perl cgi-bin). Using HTML templating and good support from a small and agile company had a lot to recommend it, and many people built a living out of it, both inside and outside Allaire.
    • BobMcBob 13 minutes ago
      You just gave me flashbacks as a teenager using Allaire HomeSite to build websites for friends and family. Man what a good piece of software before they bolted CF to it and sent it off to Macromedia>Adobe hell.
  • kmanlives 2 hours ago
    I've made a very good living with ColdFusion consistently since I picked it up in 1997. There are now several really nice MVC frameworks for ColdFusion out there. If you've not used it in decades, it has a fully script-based syntax now, and there is a strong free CF engine (Lucee).

    The newest integrations with AI are definitely interesting.

    I've been pleasantly surprised to see some inklings of growth in CF adoption, though I'm comfortable saying that most new code in ANY language is going to be written with AI going forward.

    With the latest PHP vulnerabilities - ColdFusion is actually a selling point: "Gee, it doesn't run 60+ percent of the internet, but it's actively maintained and can be configured to be secure."

    • bitexploder 6 minutes ago
      A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, I used to write a bunch of ColdFusion with a dude that owned an S2000 :)
    • conductr 1 hour ago
      > it has a fully script-based syntax now

      What does this mean? This being a revelation for a web tech solution strikes me as strange. I saw a tiny bit of CF like 25 years ago and perhaps mistakenly thought it did this back then.

      • bitexploder 8 minutes ago
        It used by be a markup language like:

          <cfif blah="something is true">do this<cfelse>do that</cfif>
        
        But now it has its own scripting language like:

          <cfscript>
          // scripty stuff
          </cfscript>
        
        At least, that is how it used to be :)
  • djfobbz 2 hours ago
    I feel like Ben Forta just woke me up and it's 2002!
    • kmanlives 2 hours ago
      Ben actually spoke at last year's CF Summit. It felt very nostalgic!
  • harel 4 hours ago
    There is so much in this title alone that sounds like a time capsule from 1999...
    • giancarlostoro 4 hours ago
      They're just missing either Shockwave (Director) or Flash as half of their website.
  • hackthemack 4 hours ago
    Wayback Machine already has a copy. If the site does not load for you, try https://web.archive.org/web/20261026222905/https://www.grego...
  • good8675309 2 hours ago
    Still running a saas I built on Coldfusion/Lucee with a Vue frontend that I started in 2011 that supports myself and 2 employees.
  • brightball 2 hours ago
    ColdFusion...now there's a name I haven't heard in some time.